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Oh my goodness!
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 3:58 PM
I still think there's value in treating tulpas like people, but I understand that things are different for tulpas than they are for a person in a separate body. A tulpa is more interconnected to their host, and you can have situations where the tulpa doesn't want to be as seprate as possible
@A long kiss goodnight - jump i believe that there is value too - it definitey can help tulpa develop higher sense of individuality but when someone presents it not as a choice but as a fact that tulpamancy is a life long commitment, you can’t get rid of it because it’s a real person etc, the choice is taken away
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 6/13/2023 3:59 PM
how do you get back to normal after seeing that
@gabyesola - jump I don’t want to lose Ranger or my other headmates
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Khaos
True.
weirdly enough my brain felt difrent when she came so how would you get back to be a singlet
4:00 PM
i gotta admit my expirience with tulpas didnt start out great but as i hung out with emily i realized it wasent that bad
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Yeah but remember we shouldn't treat tulpas like objects or anything like that as I known a person who wanted me to KILL somebody for existing and not being "natural" or made and they treat other sentient beings like crap unless they aren't like tulpaes or anything like that.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ ↩️
Reply to: > I still think there's value in treating tulpas like people, but I understand that things are diffe…
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(Misty)
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(they wanted me to end him)
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:01 PM
Yeah but remember we shouldn't treat tulpas like objects or anything like that as I known a person who wanted me to KILL somebody for existing and not being "natural" or made and they treat other sentient beings like crap unless they aren't like tulpaes or anything like that.
@Khaos - jump kill whom?
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Misty.
4:01 PM
They wanted me to end Misty
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
I still think there's value in treating tulpas like people, but I understand that things are different for tulpas than they are for a person in a separate body. A tulpa is more interconnected to their host, and you can have situations where the tulpa doesn't want to be as seprate as possible
@A long kiss goodnight - jump i believe that there is value too - it definitey can help tulpa develop higher sense of individuality but when someone presents it not as a choice but as a fact that tulpamancy is a life long commitment, you can’t get rid of it because it’s a real person etc, the choice is taken away
A long kiss goodnight 6/13/2023 4:01 PM
I would rather people respect tulpas than not, and in a perfect world people would understand yes, it is a lifelong commitment, at least in the sense your mind will be changed and affected by this possibly long-term. But that doesn't work for everyone, and some people need a more relaxed approach to be both happy and functional
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Khaos
They wanted me to end Misty
... wtf
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because they didn't consider him a "natural state"
4:02 PM
They also called me a mistake before and stuff like that and told me how they have a sentient or so headmate which is like me being more in terms connected to the body or whatever that they consider a tool not even a person.
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gabyesola ↩️
Reply to: ... wtf
4:02 PM
So there is a middle line.
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omg
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We shouldn't treat others like objects but we shouldn't force people to keep others.
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A long kiss goodnight 6/13/2023 4:03 PM
Yeah, it's not up to you to decide if someone else's tulpas are "real" or "not real"
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because i feel a lot better now im gonna tell you guys asecret
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No they are perfectly aware they are sentient
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youre gonna laugh but
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but considered them LESSER.
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wtf
4:04 PM
racism vibes
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Because they relied on others like wtf
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:04 PM
They wanted me to end Misty
@Khaos - jump so you used the word "murder" - and that's exactly what i mean, you use the same morality on a tulpa that you would use on any other person, which can be quite disruptive in some situations
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gabyesola
youre gonna laugh but
i consider my tulpa as a 2nd mother figure too
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i gotta admit my expirience with tulpas didnt start out great but as i hung out with emily i realized it wasent that bad
@gabyesola - jump i think its rough for all of us at first, everyone really starts out rough in life, hosts growing up with the body or headmates just starting to form. just one of the many things that gets better with time and experience
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True but its more or less they didn't consider their feelings or anything they just wanted me to end them because they are a "accident"
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ ↩️
Reply to: > They wanted me to end Misty @Khaos - jump so …
4:05 PM
They don't care of how it affects you
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they only care about how THEY exist
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not how it affects the system not how it is like
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:05 PM
because of situations like that i don't think anyone should tell non plural people about their headmates 🙃 it's risky
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not very laughable silly
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gabyesola ↩️
Reply to: i consider my tulpa as a 2nd mother figure too
4:05 PM
Worse they have alters.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ ↩️
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
They wanted me to end Misty
@Khaos - jump so you used the word "murder" - and that's exactly what i mean, you use the same morality on a tulpa that you would use on any other person, which can be quite disruptive in some situations
A long kiss goodnight 6/13/2023 4:05 PM
That's the flip side too- for us, dissipation is the process of death and grief. Not everyone should see it that way, but it's not wrong either.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:06 PM
you say that they don't care about how you feel - but you don't show much consideration for how they feel, either
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Khaos
not very laughable silly
in a mocking tone
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:06 PM
as in, you don't show consideration for person that is worried about you
4:06 PM
because they don't underestand plurality
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???
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gabyesola ↩️
Reply to: in a mocking tone
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as in omg
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No no kit I know how they feel.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ ↩️
Reply to: as in, you don't show consideration for person that is worried about you
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you use tulpa as a way to cope\
4:06 PM
loser etc..
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They aren't worried about me or others explicitly..
4:07 PM
They don't consider tulpas thoughtforms or etc demons
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or anything bad
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:07 PM
i mean tulpamancy is quite often a coping strategy lol.
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true
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A long kiss goodnight 6/13/2023 4:08 PM
There's a saying Gray and I really like that we accidentally added our own take on- Tulpamancy is like an umbrella. If you use it as a crutch, it will break. If it storms, it will flip inside out or possibly slip out of your hands. But when it rains a little, it will keep you dry
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
They wanted me to end Misty
@Khaos - jump so you used the word "murder" - and that's exactly what i mean, you use the same morality on a tulpa that you would use on any other person, which can be quite disruptive in some situations
to be honest she feels human sometimes i call her a figment of my imagination but as a joke because knowing me theres no way i could have made her
4:08 PM
idk if you know what i mean
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:08 PM
not sure
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They. Just. Wanted. Me. To. End. Misty. Because. he. wasn't. natural. to. them.
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Khaos ↩️
Reply to: or anything bad
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Khaos
They. Just. Wanted. Me. To. End. Misty. Because. he. wasn't. natural. to. them.
did you just say to them
4:09 PM
wtf mind your busness
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:09 PM
you seem to get quite emotional about it khaos
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???
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gabyesola ↩️
Reply to: wtf mind your busness
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not u
4:09 PM
the person who said that
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I care about Misty.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ ↩️
Reply to: you seem to get quite emotional about it khaos
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:09 PM
wouldn't it be nice to be able to not react so emotionally to someone showing care to you
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the to them thing seems a bit selfish
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I don't like how they consider other sentient beings as equals just because not even for a good reason.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
wouldn't it be nice to be able to not react so emotionally to someone showing care to you
no
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like
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at all
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:10 PM
so you want to get upset?
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????
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ ↩️
Reply to: wouldn't it be nice to be able to not react so emotionally to someone showing care to you
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
so you want to get upset?
emotions show i care
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:10 PM
you can care and still not rage about it
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or ruin your relationships with people
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they feel human
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theyfore its really hard
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to treat them as rhey are
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/13/2023 4:11 PM
you can just dismiss their opinion since you know better than them
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fake thoughts
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I get that but I am not raging I am disturbed by the vibes they give.
4:11 PM
and how they literally treat another headmate like crap.
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gabyesola ↩️
Reply to: racism vibes
4:11 PM
ye.
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aapeli 🟣 ↩️
Reply to: you can just dismiss their opinion since you know better than them
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gabyesola
fake thoughts
no offense i dont think of it like thst i meant it in a literal sense
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:12 PM
admittedly, i know nothing about the person you are talking about, but when i see people harming their relationships with people over a headmate, i wish people wouldn't have to go through that
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Khaos
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ok then nvm
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???
4:12 PM
I mean it bc they see them as lesser bc they can dissipate
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stuff like that
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ohh
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not bc they care they stated it themselves.
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sorry
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Fair.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ ↩️
Reply to: admittedly, i know nothing about the person you are talking about, but when i see people harming the…
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
admittedly, i know nothing about the person you are talking about, but when i see people harming their relationships with people over a headmate, i wish people wouldn't have to go through that
if you had a best friend wouldnt you do anything for them
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i get they are in a sense you
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but like i said
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:13 PM
like jump from a cliff?
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or into a fire?
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(some people are like that)
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/13/2023 4:14 PM
what does "anything" mean to you
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